Just finished. It was Assange in English, Gabilondo in Spanish, on TV, but here there’s simultaneous translation, so if you find it as in the original, please, post the link!
My notes on two ideas Assange mentions:
Assange, interviewed by Gabilondo
G: Fear of going to prison being accused of major crimes?
A: Perhaps at the beginning, but then he thinks and feels it would be exciting – a new world, lots to learn
His fear is that of not being engaged
Dystopias are more unlikely than utopías